The Lemurian Empire

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  • Re EvolutionRe Evolution REGISTERED Posts: 1,105 Seed
    From that last post Youngy, I believe that you think you have a guaranteed win when it comes to wars. *Grins malevolently* I take that as a challenge.
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  • Xodus_LLamaXodus_LLama REGISTERED Posts: 74
    I'm not sure about you, but I'm a firm believer in Leonidus. Let us not think all wars are winnable, despite being pretty much the largest group (and full of the coolest llamas in all of TUG! :D)
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  • ValidifyedValidifyed REGISTERED Posts: 612 Seed
    300 was based on the The Battle of Thermopylae btw :D
  • ValidifyedValidifyed REGISTERED Posts: 612 Seed
    At the end of the day though, we wont be starting any attacks, at least without reasonable 'Encouragement' from the enemy. So what would be stopping us from joining this UN? Thoughts?
  • Youngy798Youngy798 REGISTERED Posts: 905 Seed
    IMO nothing would. If we ever attack someone it will be because they provide a threat, for example they have taken down one of our supply boats.
    If we do attack, I will try and minimize the amount of structural damage we do to the town, so I won't be running through setting everything on fire.
    Hello there! I am Youngy future owner of Plainhold (hopefully), go read the topic about Plainhold, and the Lemurian Empire, maybe also some of my other posts, like my mining suggestions! :)

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  • ValidifyedValidifyed REGISTERED Posts: 612 Seed
    So it would seem logical that we join, as we would then likely be called to arms outside our borders, to help with UN conflicts too, anyone against us joining then? Before I declare Lemuria as part of the UN?
  • Youngy798Youngy798 REGISTERED Posts: 905 Seed
    I am not, I don't see why anyone else would be.
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  • ValidifyedValidifyed REGISTERED Posts: 612 Seed
    ok, Well i'll leave it a bit longer, just incase someone comes up with something.
  • AceAce REGISTERED Posts: 15 Seed
    The interesting thing about these monarchies is how they will actually work in practice. Large scale government, or even chief lead tribal societies, unlike simple small communities require leadership. And effective leaders need power. Power resides where men believe it resides. That might be with the gods or an NPC but many people might not let their game experience be governed by another person, whether it be benevolent lord or antagonistic arch emperor. The few that will won't be that plentiful.
  • Youngy798Youngy798 REGISTERED Posts: 905 Seed
    I want my City to have rules, and to have them enforced, but also let people live freely.
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  • ValidifyedValidifyed REGISTERED Posts: 612 Seed
    "Power is a curious thing...Three great men, a king, a priest, and a rich man. Between them stands a common sellsword. Each great man bids the sellsword kill the other two. Who lives, who dies? Power resides where men believe it resides; it's a trick, a shadow on the wall, and a very small man can cast a very large shadow."
    ―Varys, Master of Whisperers
  • SmartyOf95SmartyOf95 REGISTERED Posts: 394
    Validifyed wrote:
    "Power is a curious thing...Three great men, a king, a priest, and a rich man. Between them stands a common sellsword. Each great man bids the sellsword kill the other two. Who lives, who dies? Power resides where men believe it resides; it's a trick, a shadow on the wall, and a very small man can cast a very large shadow."
    ―Varys, Master of Whisperers

    Song of Ice and Fire <3 xD

    In response to Ace, I think the reason most people are joining these empires and other organisations is to do with a combination of want for safety, prosperity and social aspects. Safety because you're less likely to get attacked by bandits, stolen from or murdered, if the perpetrator knows that it is quite likely they will be thrown in a gaol (jail for Americans :P). Prosperity because having someone organise trade means it's more fluid, most trades are fair and having people around to trade with means there is always a market. Social because... well people like to be around other people and form relationships with them.
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  • Dillyman2Dillyman2 REGISTERED Posts: 5
    I have nothing against joining the UN. Go ahead.
  • ValidifyedValidifyed REGISTERED Posts: 612 Seed
    Ok, Sent the notification to them then.
  • ValidifyedValidifyed REGISTERED Posts: 612 Seed
    We still need to sort out that banner, I do have an idea, ill try and make a mockup so somone better at art can perhaps make the real thing.
  • Youngy798Youngy798 REGISTERED Posts: 905 Seed
    Are countries allowed in the Empire? What would happen if a City expanded into a place with over 100 people, would it be considered a country?
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  • ValidifyedValidifyed REGISTERED Posts: 612 Seed
    I would imagine so... Might even have the rank king, but we will have to see how people do whe the game comes out :D
  • Youngy798Youngy798 REGISTERED Posts: 905 Seed
    Minecraft servers like Hypixels server can sometimes gain over 2k people, so I suspect that the NK servers will have much more.
    It would be amazing to have servers filled with like 3k people, all spread around a huge planet working on different cities. That would allow for an extremely complex society and economy.
    Hello there! I am Youngy future owner of Plainhold (hopefully), go read the topic about Plainhold, and the Lemurian Empire, maybe also some of my other posts, like my mining suggestions! :)

    Bye!
  • Xodus_LLamaXodus_LLama REGISTERED Posts: 74
    Oh mer gersh. Honestly, I doubt it would be as complicated as real and modern politics and economy, but if it is, that would be amazing. A pain in the ass (Vous excusez mon francais, s'il vous plait :( ) but incredibly interesting. An opportunity for study at Stonehearth, as well!

    Also, I doubt it, but could we actually be called The Holy Lemurian Empire? :D
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    "Go down deep enough into anything and you will find mathematics." ~Dean Schlicter
  • RinRin REGISTERED Posts: 668 Seed
    i don't know how complex our economy will become, but if tug is complex enough, it might be hard for a single city to produce everything it needs, meaning trade becomes vital to anyone who isn't an anarchist.
    i don't really see it unless creating a religion actually helps with the gods(if they are gods), and even then, i don't know about having the empire being referred to as the holy lemurian empire or even endorsing the religion in that way.
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    Soon to be alchemist/apothecary in TUG
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  • ValidifyedValidifyed REGISTERED Posts: 612 Seed
    I am certainly hoping for big 3k servers! Too many open world creative games like this are liquidated into small player owned servers, NK have a chance to change this with their own servers to set an example of what can be achievable.
  • MichaelMichael REGISTERED Posts: 59
    From what I've heard their will be official servers, but players can host their own servers too. It will be the best of both worlds.
  • WingidonWingidon REGISTERED Posts: 1,128 Seed
    Oh mer gersh. Honestly, I doubt it would be as complicated as real and modern politics and economy, but if it is, that would be amazing. A pain in the ass (Vous excusez mon francais, s'il vous plait :( ) but incredibly interesting. An opportunity for study at Stonehearth, as well!

    Also, I doubt it, but could we actually be called The Holy Lemurian Empire? :D
    xD your french is far better then mine (I know no french :c)
  • Youngy798Youngy798 REGISTERED Posts: 905 Seed
    I actually looked yesterday, I have multiple MC servers in my list with over 3k players online.
    If NK make it so that the NK servers are automatically in the list at the start, a lot of people will go to them first.
    Hello there! I am Youngy future owner of Plainhold (hopefully), go read the topic about Plainhold, and the Lemurian Empire, maybe also some of my other posts, like my mining suggestions! :)

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  • ValidifyedValidifyed REGISTERED Posts: 612 Seed
    Yhe, But Im guessing they are all Network servers? Not really the same...
  • Youngy798Youngy798 REGISTERED Posts: 905 Seed
    Most of them are minigames servers.

    I hope the economy is fairly complex, it would actually make it worthwile to have a government system to monitor peoples belongings and shop prices. You could do surveys every week which log how much everyone in a town owns.
    Hello there! I am Youngy future owner of Plainhold (hopefully), go read the topic about Plainhold, and the Lemurian Empire, maybe also some of my other posts, like my mining suggestions! :)

    Bye!
  • SinnonSinnon REGISTERED Posts: 383 Seed
    Youngy798 wrote:
    Most of them are minigames servers.

    I hope the economy is fairly complex, it would actually make it worthwile to have a government system to monitor peoples belongings and shop prices. You could do surveys every week which log how much everyone in a town owns.

    Feel free to ask the UN Order if you need any help at all, I would personally help you with the economy, since its a matter I for some weird reason, like to work with.

    Don't worry tough, I got quite experience from minecraft, and custom developing of gamemodes, specially the shop/economy parts, since no one actually wanted to to them.
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  • SinnonSinnon REGISTERED Posts: 383 Seed
    Rin wrote:
    i don't know how complex our economy will become, but if tug is complex enough, it might be hard for a single city to produce everything it needs, meaning trade becomes vital to anyone who isn't an anarchist.
    i don't really see it unless creating a religion actually helps with the gods(if they are gods), and even then, i don't know about having the empire being referred to as the holy lemurian empire or even endorsing the religion in that way.

    That's true Rin, its almost imposible a city is autosustentable, it requires commerce from others, atleast it is like that in the real world, trade will be active if there is a offer and demand, which in most cases there is always, we'll try very hard to develop the realistic factor for economy and politics in the game, post anything your mind can think of, we'll need to analyze the player's criteria and common sense, its a main factor which we'll need to study.
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  • Youngy798Youngy798 REGISTERED Posts: 905 Seed
    Repost from my Plainhold thread! Just thought you guys may want to discuss this:

    I was doing some research about different types of political ideologies. I read a 'Explain like I am 5' thread of Reddit about communism and this bit here really stood out to me:

    'Let's say that you love baking. It's your favorite thing in the world. So, you say "I want to bake and share this with everyone!". So you open a bakery. Bill comes in in the morning and asks for a loaf of bread. You give it to them, no exchange of money, you just give it to him. Cool! But later that day your chair breaks. A shame, but fortunately good ol' Bill who you gave that bread to loves making chairs. He's pretty great at it. You go round his house later and he gives you whichever chair you want. This is what communism is: people sharing, leaving in a community, and not trying to compete against each other.'

    I was comtemplating bringing some kind of idea like this into Plainhold, people would all be able to do what interests them, even if there isn't much of a monetary value to their service. Now this all comes down to whether or not TUG makes it difficult to be able to effectively do everything, if 1 person in the City can become an amazing baker, or amazing miner, something like this may work.
    A miner could mine, he would then give his stone to the builders who would build houses for the miners and residents and also the City walls. The residents would live in their houses, do some farming and send the wheat to the baker, who would then make bread and give it to the miners. Indirectly, the miners have been payed for their service, even thought they didn't get money, they got a free house and food. This really interests me, a society where everyone chips in without trying to rip each-other off. Everyone plays a part, and every job can be linked together in terms of the help they bring to others.
    Some people may not be interested in this, and that's why I posted it here, I really just wanted to voice an opinion and try and get a discussion going about this.

    One disadvantage which I have noticed is that, because the City would lack this 'currency' type economy, it would make it much harder to buy things from outside the City, this would however keep trade inside the City and benefit the residents. We would have to resort to using purely items as a means of currency, so instead of using Gold coins, we could trade 5 iron ore for some horses etc.

    Please leave some feedback and discuss :) Keep in mind, I still want to have classic types of society inside the City, I just find this style of economy interesting. Jails, police force etc would still be present.
    Hello there! I am Youngy future owner of Plainhold (hopefully), go read the topic about Plainhold, and the Lemurian Empire, maybe also some of my other posts, like my mining suggestions! :)

    Bye!
  • Xodus_LLamaXodus_LLama REGISTERED Posts: 74
    First of all, Fascism is infinitely better than Communism, if it wasn't for Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia, it'd rule the world, as it rightfully should.

    Secondly, sounds great, in theory, as communism always does. What about this say:

    Bill has to go out and get some wood from Monty, the local lumberjack (who sleeps all night and works all day :p). Monty would love to help, but he's cut down all the spare trees he can for the season, he has to let some of the youngins grow before there's any valuable wood. Bill is just fine with this, and continues business as usual. So with a limited amount of chairs (he has a very specialised ability in carpentry) he realises he can't take just one loaf of bread for one chair, he'd run out of chairs by the day and only have enough bread for half the season! (Everyone but Bill and Monty buys in bread xD)

    By charging more than one bread per chair, it screws up the whole system. I would love this system (not really, screw communism) but supplies might be too varied and, as always, the age old debate of can a human being contain his greed?
    "A mathematician is a device for turning coffee into theorems." ~Paul Erdos
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